>> charles: ben? >> i love berkshire hathaway, if you can be on the same team, sign up. >> charles: and cost of freedom continues with the place for business, that is always right. >> eric: sarah palin is here the governor and i fired up about distrust of the government as irs targets conservatives. now we're learning $70 million in bonuses and your tax dollars lining their wallets. what does she think about that? >> and does the f.b.i. owner currently use drones and if so for what purpose? >> yes, sir and for surveillance. >> eric: shock and awe. now, they are using them to spy on americans. now, your privacy on the line. and reaction from a shocking exclusive interview with the father of the nsa whistleblower ed

snowden. he is fired up and what he says will shock you. "cashin' in" blowing the whistle on big brother right now. >> eric: i'm eric boling. in a moment we'll explore the latest with "cashin' in" crew and joining us will be colonel alan west. joining me my very good friend and fox news contributor, sarah palin. governor, welcome. we obviously can't trust the irs. they proved that by targeting conservatives and now the agency is giving their union employees $70 million paid for by the temperature. it can't be sitting well with you? >> no, it certainly doesn't. i think in orwellian government be so generously rewarded. it's more reason to distrust our federal government and nonsense that is going in washington, d.c..

>> eric: that is the overriding theme of this show. can we trust them. governor, can we trust them? >> well, can i trust our federal government? they are catholic, does the pope live in the woods? no, i don't trust our federal government. the $17 trillion question. when you have a government that will not acknowledge to the american public that we are bankrupt and instead the federal government continues to perpetuate by digging more debt and spending money on ridiculous items and programs. one example that is why the american public cannot trust the federal government. it seems that washington is for sale. we have so many examples, even in the recent weeks, eric, that lead people to acknowledge that we all need a very healthy distrust of our federal

government. >> eric: tea party suggested that it's time to abolish the irs? >> right on. absolutely, this would give us reason to head toward simplified tax code and adopt a flat tax. that way we could abolish the bureaucracy that is so burdensome and so expensive and ridiculous antics with the irs. it would allow some sledge hammering of the crony capitalism and that whole senator. scenario. this would give us good reason to make more sense the coffers being filled by the american public's fruit of their labors. >> eric: the irs gave us a comment. let's pull it down. regarding the $70 million in bonuses. irs is under a legal obligation to comply with the collective bargaining

agreement which specify terms that awards are paid by employees. that is the part of problem, we are paying their salaries and this is a union. does it drive you crazy? >> it drivers me crazy because you can anticipate the obama administration will not even push back on what this union is demanding for its employees. that is what is shame here, the obama administration will cowtow to their friends that are union thugs that is so many leaders are thugs. they won't push back. because this it gives a bad name to the brothers and sisters within the union, just want to produce well and do their jobs. it's their leadership that is unfortunately he will not push back. >> eric: we don't know how high this goes up. if the irs is committed to targeting conservative groups, you have to wonder

if that is spread throughout the federal government right now. the reason why i bring that up this week we also learned that f.b.i. director mueller said they are targeting americans with drones. your thoughts. >> that is very disturbing because i think what mueller is telling us, we're not going shoot you down a little bit. he is talking about minimal impact of drones on u.s. soil. now what this allows us to understand that rand paul was right when a senator engaged in the filibuster and what he was asking for a couple months ago. he was asking for unanswered questions about domestic use of drones. the impact on the american public. what were they? what was going on. was it actually happening. of course, he chided and mocked and ridiculed by the obama administration and by some in the senate for

engaging such a thing but rand paul was right. he was asking the questions and finally we're getting answers, drones are used on american soil. >> eric: now we have irs targeting conservative groups because they don't agree with president obama's etiology, f.b.i. who is stargt certain americans, we don't know. very limited use. he didn't specify who and why they were using the drones. again, can we trust them? >> we are building a very strong case against that trust of today's federal government. i personally do not trust any government that is being led by barack obama when he is fulfilling his promise to fund fundamentally transform this nation. as i said so many time, we don't need a fundamental transformation but fundamental restoration of what is free and right about america. i do not trust the

government under the leadership to change what we know what is so good about america. >> eric: one more to don't build the case. ed snowden, the nsa whistleblower who went to china and hong kong and then china and said that the nsa was blanketing and taking information from verizon telephone customers and the scandal may be bigger and bigger. i got an exclusive interview with his father. take a listen how he assets the situation. listen. >> it's very similar to every morning the government walks up to your mailbox or afternoon, they pull the envelopes out, they open them, they look at your mail, they copy it, they archive it in case they want to it. some time in the future if you do something wrong, they reseal the envelopes and put it back mailbox and do it every day over and over again. >> eric: so the irs

targeting conservative groups, f.b.i. with drones on americans and nsa listening into americans, violating the fourth million constitution says you need probable cause. it a feels to me we're in iran or communist china? >> i think any american with an ounce of common sense, something is wrong here. especially in regards to this discussion about snowden. snowden is not the problem. here we're told, just relax, don't worry about government spying on all of our communications, building that apparatus to be able to to spy on us. that is no big deal. it's criminal for the person who told us about what our government is doing. that is what is backwards about this. snowden is not the problem. the problem is government violating our fourth amendment lights, taking away our privacy. i was a victim of my emails, my communications being

hacked when i ran for vice president. in the campaign i said the same thing. what difference is it if some hacker coming in and opening up physically my mailbox and going through my mail as to be used against me at some point. government in this case is doing the same thing but the kid did to me during the campaign. it's not a safe, ethical, moral or legal measure being taken by our government. >> eric: i have to tell you. i appreciate you being here on "cashin' in". it may not seem like a lot but can we trust them, in my opinion, a big fat no. governor sarah palin. thanks for joining us. thanks for hanging out on "cashin' in" this morning. >> coming up, our crew is ready to role. hits to privacy keep on coming. healthcare law will allow all governments to share your personal medical information. are you cool with that?

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>>. fox news alert. i'm arthel nevil. state police officers and dogs now searching the massachusetts home of aaron hernandez. live shot of that search in progress. the player is in investigation of a semi pro football player named odin lloyd whose body found nearby. they searched in and around the home as they try to figure out who killed lloyd. the judge in a george zimmerman murder trial ruling that the audio experts cannot testify on the screams heard in 911 calls. one expert ruled zimmerman as the screamer and other said trayvon martin. zimmerman said he shot in self-defense last year. opening statements are set for monday. i'm arthel nevil and going back to "cashin' in" and

i'll be back at 6:00 eastern along with rick folbaum. >> eric: hope you shall not shy about sharing your personal medical records. new health care rule in the president's law requires state, federal and local agencies to swap health information on anyone signing up for new programs. programs mind you that will be enforced by the irs. colonel west, you can't be happy with this? >> absolutely not. eric, it's just the same as nancy pelosi said back in 2010, we have to pass the bill in order to find out what is in it. we're going to find out more heinous obamacare law as we get closer to the implementation. remember the declaration of independence was written because the states were complaining about an invasive and intrusive government. british government in king george iii at the time and that is what we are starting to see here. this combined with all the nsa surveillance, we don't trust the irs because of

what they were doing targeting certain groups. of course, we continue to see people in the irs getting promoted. we don't get to the bottom or the truth. be concerned with the type of organizations that will be charged exchanges and navigators. >> eric: jonathan, nowhere in this new rule, says i can check a box and says no, don't share my personal information. i'm concerned about this one? >> elimination of private health care is the elimination of privacy in health care. obamacare is fact of socialization of healthcare so you should expect no privacy information. your private records become public good no matter whether it's cost savings or efficiency or whatever the justification they use to come up with, spying is done under the justification of public safety and national security. it's the same thing, who pays bills makes the rules. government is paying the

bills and they will make the rules. >> eric: so wayne, they admitted targeting conservatives and healthcare system has to share your state and local and federal with medical information. this sounds like complete invasion of my privacy. a shredding of the constitution? >> well, it is. you are right. the whole idea, whole built is two thousand pages, regulations amounts to 20,000 pages. it's impossible to comply with. it will be a disaster. they have to turn it over and started all over. in pelosi said, pass it and then we'll discover in it, that is most irresponsible -- they allegedly represent us. we are giving the people of representing us and they just turning it back and throwing it in our face. we ought to get rid of all of them. >> eric: we keep finding more things around the things we're not liking,

more taxes, now more invasion of our privacy? >> i'm concerned about invasion of privacy. i will also say, look, i understand why they have to do it. because obviously this is part of the exchanges where they have to find out you are getting the coverage which you are entitled, but it's not under bombing's name. but i agree. >> eric: i agree with you. i would rather have the states do it? >> yeah, absolutely so. once again, we just don't under understand what the slippery slope can be when you start the vein vacation of medical records and who is keeping this information and what are they using it for. it's about the whole issue of data mining. >> it's happening in realtime. go back to 2010, under

romney care, private patient files that will literally tossed in the dump for anyone to check them out. an hiv positive pilot had his private information shared. and in the u.k. right now the building a national gene database. so everybody's dna's can be tracked by government when you think. >> eric: when you apply it to the national gun registry. conservatives have to be up in arms just too much information the government is controlling and seeing. >> well, i would agree with all of that except the one word conservatives. everybody has to. whether you are liberal, conservative who you are. if you are a citizen of the united states you have to care about your own personal privacy. government is consistently invading that. every agency, we have the irs, we've got now obamacare. every one of these agencies who builds up a bureaucracy, invades your privacy.

they should get rid of half of them. whole idea of big government is too big and out of control. >> eric: we'll have on to leave it there. mayhem over money and how uncle sam is choosing booze and wine over needy women and children. we'll explain.

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>> should the government be funding wine on your dime? republican senator tom coburn yo wants to know why the usda slashed assistance to 600,000 hungry women and children, but is still pumping thousands of dollars into wineries andildr liquor.ousa jonathan, our priorities seem pretty out of whack on this one.

>> eric, if you want to subsidize wine -- [ laughter ]ze -- you should drink it, which i do. if you're i against cronyism, yu have to be against all subsidies for booze, for green energy, for film production. and actually for women, children and infant, too. i disagree with you, eric that, this is a question of priority. i think coburn has beenprio inconsistent here. he should be against all subsidies. people want to help any industry or any individual, they should help them.ub government is not a charity. >> that would be the extreme. colonel west, what about it? the democrats blame sequester and talked about cutting this, cutting that. they ended up cutting assistance. meanwhile we're spending money on wineries. >> that's the whole point. you could try to raise the level of pain and i think that's whate you see happening here. but it is about priorities. in the military, we understood our task and our purpose and o priorities, and it just calls into question what really is the

mission of the united states department of agriculture and what are they really doing? we just saw the farm bill get voted down up there in the house of representatives because this farm bill, quote, unquote, has now become 80% supplemental nutrition assistance program, but yet we still have this typep of spending. so the social safety net is out there for a purpose.ng but we don't want it to become a hammock. tie.yne, break this is john drunk or is he right when he says cut all subsidies? >> i think jonathan can be both drunk and right at the same time. [ laughter ] >> noted. >> i had one glass. >> i. like it best when he's drunk. this goes back to what i previously said. this is another case of an agency, the department ofsa agriculture, totally out of control. in other words, a lot of this il unnecessary. you could cut half these agencies, all these agencies in. half and still be way ahead of the game. they're spending money where they shouldn't be.

they're taking taxpayer money and because they have thee privilege of doing it, and spending it where they s shouldn't, there should be rules about thispe and the only way to control them is cut them back.ay >> they're spending like drunke soldiers, but that's sailors. that's an insult to drunken sailors. >> that's an insult to soldiers. >> i don't know what's in that wine. right, jonathan should allow theseri poor kids to be on the street and the government shouldn't bes helping them. they're starving out there. give may breck. >> what a monster i am. >> i have to sarks the extremes to which you go. h what are you going to do with these kids in who are going to pay for them to get food if you don't give them nutritional, supplements? >> i'm going to give colonel west the last word. it's not about whether or not we should give social services. it's about whether we should cu services and spend money on wineries. >> that's absolutely right. it's about theso priorities that are there. but then also you look at some of these programs we have, the

snap programs and electronic benefit transfer cards, there is no means testing. there is -- look, we have a government that was usingok, taxpayer dollars to solicit people to go on these programs. >> we have to leave it there. we'll say thank you to julia and colonel west for joining us. the white house tours still closed. we have an idead to bring them back. back. i hope the president is listening and taste awesome. these are good. told ya! i'm feeling better already. [ male announcer ] new alka seltzer fruits chews. enjoy the relief!

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conscience spend that much money. in the meantime, the white house is still closed. mr. president, you're showing them exact leave how government works. this is a fox news alert. i'm kimberly guilfoyle. paula deen's contract will not be renewed at the end of the month with the food network. she's used a racial slur in the past. deen is beingew sued for racial discrimination and admitted during a legal deposition tog su using the slur. she apologized today and is asking for forgiveness. >> i want to apologize to everybody for the wrong that i've done. i want to learn and grow fromt this inappropriate, hurtful language is totally, totally unacceptable. i've made plenty